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A Man with his Art on his Sleeve
Architect
Who is Michael
Michael
“To Enlighten, Not to Toss Off Obscure
Puzzles … To Bless Earth, Not to Damn Existence … To Impart the Breath of Life,
Not to Draw Degradation … To Bring Forth Shimmering Passion, Not to Wallow in
Despair …This Manifesto is the Signal for a Moral Revolution of Human Values in
the Arts.”
Not just combative then, but also distinctly
unfashionable.
MN: An artist 100%. Making art and responding to it is my life. Writing and lecturing on aesthetic issues and directing the Foundation for the Advancement of Art are secondary. But all of it comes from the same place: from my love for art.
TFR: Does your activism help your art? Do you
begrudge the time away?
MN: Activism doesn’t help my art directly but it does give me an incredible sense of freedom. I love taking the actions necessary to defend and promote the art values I believe in. I am definitely motivated to denounce the recent Chapman brother's defacement of the Goya etchings as I am to support a brilliant artist like Stuart Mark Feldman.
TFR: You've just held your first conference
for the Foundation for the Advancement of Art in
TFR: It's been a couple of years since you
announced your bold strategy to take on the art world. Have you found any need
to modify your strategy at all? For instance, has the 'Highbrow Hammer' approach
proved fruitful?
MN: Recently, I have had discussions with a
few arts editors and postmodern gallery directors; a couple of them have tried
to “Highbrow Hammer” me! I enjoyed that immensely. Many of their arguments, I
believe, sounded even shallow to themselves. For example none of them had good
points as to why innovative representational painters were not acknowledged and
they agreed with me that they should be.
An interesting “highbrow” development coming
up this spring in
MN: We are setting a date for a conference in
[2008 update: The Foundation put on the one conference. I found it took too much of my time from painting, but I writing a column, The Artist's I for The New Individualist, in which I write about great living artists.]
Teaching Art
TFR:
MN: Yes I do. And learning the skills of art
early in life is a prerequisite for making great art…and, I believe, for
acquiring a deep appreciation for it.
TFR: How would you characterize the students
you have taught? What, briefly, were you teaching them and how receptive were
they? And how has your teaching helped your own work?
MN: I had a few wonderful students. I think
there are young geniuses all around us and all they need is an atmosphere of
reason, passion, self-esteem, and to know that important accomplishments in life
are made through tremendous effort. The sad thing is that the life of an artist
is so damn difficult that many students don’t have either the fortitude or the
financial and moral support that they need to flourish.
I have always encouraged my students to
introspectively dive down, really deep, and use the profound visual techniques
of form, space, and light to unlock their souls. Trust me, when you encourage a
teenager to express their deepest being and you give them the tools to do it
then they love it.
I haven’t found that teaching has helped my art. I instruct students with approaches that I am already familiar with but in my projects I am pushing the limits of my knowledge.
TFR: What inspires you? What art from fields
inside and outside paintings inspires you?
Literature, classical music, opera,
sculpture, and architecture I enjoy a great deal—I don’t care much for movies,
dance, or poetry. More often than not I love the entire output from individual
artists. I love everything by Puccini, Bach, Beethoven, Christie, Rand,
Rembrandt, Michelangelo, the French Impressionists, Jasper Johns, Picasso,
Velázquez, Vaugel, Leontyne Price, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Lloyd Wright, Richard
Neutra, Niri, Toscanini, Argerich, and Dutoit.
One painting I love is Las Meninas by Velázquez.
It has a great composition,
incredible lighting, soulful people, and phenomenal spatial
relationships. For fascinating color I would look to anything by
Monet or Van Gogh.
Sleeping with the Enemy?
TFR: You’ve said that you’ve read and -worse
- digested Kant’s ‘Critique of Judgment.’ Would you recommend the task to
others? Is there anything of any value there?
MN: What a horrible task to pass on to
someone! No, I wouldn’t recommend it unless they have an interest in aesthetic
theory or a general love of philosophy.
In regards to value I believe that Kant’s
aesthetics are incredibly subversive. In his Concepts of Beauty he identifies
artistic values of skill, positive sensory experience, form, and theme; pretty
much a classic view of art. But here is the rub, he then treats the Concepts of
Beauty as inferior to his Concepts of the Sublime, which are based on
formlessness, instinct, mass acceptance, and violation. For a moment if you
contemplate Kant’s view that formlessness is superior to form then you might see
how that is a conceptual slap-in-the-face to Beethoven and Michelangelo, who are
known to have the greatest form/structure in the arts. Kant’s Concepts of the
Sublime maligns the values of the world’s greatest art. But one value I get from
studying Kant’s aesthetics is that once you understand his position you can,
with some normative application, understand the nihilism of postmodern art.
Another value is seeing how ideas, philosophical ideas, can affect all of
humankind regardless of their negativity or their absurdity.
TFR: Why do you refer so often to your enemy
as ‘Post-modern’? Doesn’t that term only refer to late twentieth-century crap?
Surely Marcel Duchamp and the Dadaists and most of the early crap were ‘Modern’?
Isn't 'Post-Modernism' now passé? Aren’t the fashionable hordes now blindly
following some new 'ism'?
MN: I use the word postmodernism more as a
stylistic element or conceptual approach than one of general time periods. I
would call Picasso a modernist and Duchamp a post-modernist. There is a
significant difference between them. Picasso was a representational painter and
Duchamp broke with painting and sculpture to work with arrangements of trash
i.e. ready-mades.
TFR: Several years ago, novelist Anthony
Burgess had a very public reaction to some practitioners of ‘arrangements of
trash’ that makes various valid points it seems to me. “One often talks,” he
wrote, “about being driven to drink. I have to record that the second
programme in the ‘All Sorts to Make a World’ series sent me
pubwards shivering with rage. This [documentary], ‘Art for Whose Sake?’,
was as wretched a gallimaufrey
of phoney aesthetics and scruffy-underdog whining as
ever steamed up from the dog-end littered floor of a Soho-wine-club.
We went to the Royal Academy School of Art to meet students who cultivated a
deliberate lack of personal allure … Young Mr
Dimbleby
was their voice when he said that if photography had been invented earlier,
perhaps patrons of art would not still be so obsessed with the representational.
What it is now a moral duty to buy is the abstract canvas, apparently, and we do
foul wrong to ask for something as reasonable as an imaginative composition of
shapes that have their origin in the real world. …. I may add that these young
painters (not the sculptors; the sculptors were different) spoke as graceless an
English as I have heard in a long time.”
A few questions spring from that. How, for instance, has photography changed the nature of art?
TFR: Do you see the job of the artist then as
one primarily of communication? Or of simply 'pleasing oneself'? What is it, in
other words, that the artist is trying to do by putting splotches of paint on a
surface? What makes him do it, and what is he after?
MN: The job of an artist is creation. Their
job is to realize, to bring into existence, an idea or vision. Painting for me
feels much different than say doing this interview in which I am doing my best
to communicate. And, at least for me, there is nothing about “pleasing oneself”.
An exhilarating part of painting is unleashing your thoughts and passions but
the excruciating part is being true to visual reality i.e. light, forms, space
and when it all comes together it is sublime: an act of creation. I think the
first person to come up with the concept of God was an artist trying to name
what they felt.
As for the last part of that question, when I
was a teenager someone cooked for me lemon chicken and the taste was an
overwhelming sensual experience: the textures, aroma, the tingling explosion of
flavor! When I make a mark of color “right” it feels like that dish! Perhaps
this is one of the keys to the concept of beauty, balance is crucial, too much
of one thing can destroy the delicate balance that makes for suburb taste. For
me a mark of color must: follow the form of the object; support the light
effect; be harmonious; have an emotional quality; and it must occupy an exact
position in depth. I know that sounds mind numbing, I just broke it down in
detail. In real time the process of painting comes automatically as if I am
massaging the color. If there is a disaster I double check those perspectives
and re-work everything until I get it right.
The Creative Process
TFR: How do you generate your own ideas for a
piece? Is there a common process for each work, or does each work 'come to you'
in a different way? And how do you know when a piece is finished?
Ideas for paintings come to me all the time
through all kinds of ways. Denouement came about by thinking of what
images convey my idea of the greatest moment I could experience in life.
Awakening came about from a vision I had in a dream. Sometimes I stop
shocked still when I see a startling combination of light, shadows, shapes, and
colors in a landscape, interior, still-life, or on a person. A person’s beauty
or character often inspires me. The Slipper came about from my emotion of
bursting with joy. The ideas can come from an emotion, thought, or perception.
The psychologist Devers Branden
once asked me which voice was the one I paint by and I answered:
“all of them”. The creative process for me is listening to every
objection that voices in my head raise and then answering them by
painting the solution. They often say things like: “the background
wall is too far forward…the hand looks alright but I don’t feel
anything…fantastic you got the life and feeling in there but that
ear is all whacked … you gotta
fix it…” I work until a chorus shouts: “alright man you did it!”
Pleasing my voices and getting the mark of
color right confirms when I am done.
TFR: Where does that creative spark
come from do you think - from where do those 'voices' appear that ignite the
'Aha!' moment that produces your idea for a work?
MN: I don’t know. But, I do my best to free
my brain and life from unwanted clutter like: television sitcoms, back seat
drivers, and bad food! If it doesn’t inspire me “be gone”!
TFR: There is an excitement, isn't
there, in following that 'Aha!' moment by quickly sketching out that idea you're
just been struck with. Do you find that any more or less pleasurable than the
slow and careful - and sometimes painful - working out of all the implications
of that idea? Do you enjoy either part of the process more than any
other, i.e., the initiation of the spark?
MN: The initial spark is very exciting but
the gratification that comes from completing a major work is profound. I mean it
is one thing to have the idea and another to have worked, studied, made
mistakes, and created solutions to bring the artwork into existence.
TFR: In which area do you think
greater artistic maturity helps more - in producing the 'spark,' or in being
able to tease out all the implications of the spark.
MN: I don’t think I feel any different about
art now than 20 years ago. Maturity, for me, consists of saving time by
following good leads.
TFR: Any offers of what creativity consists?
MN: Spark and action.
TFR: How do you feel when you've put your
soul on canvas, and that canvas is then bought and taken out of your life? Do
you ever feel torn when one of your paintings leaves you?
MN: Never! It feels great to have a work go
out into the world, I love to see my works up in a collector’s home but in my
studio they are facing the walls. Mostly because I don’t want to be distracted
by them when I am working on something new.
Development of the Artist
TFR: In what sense does an artist's own personal life inform his work, do you think? Is it primarily your 'emotional' life from which you derive your inspiration?
MN: That is difficult to answer because I invest my soul in everything I make.
TFR: Which is you own favorite
Nude Self-Portrait is my most intimate work. It is about my longing for a soul mate. I encouraged the light to caress a very sensitive part of my body, next to my stomach. It is like, “yes, touch me there and I will be content.”
A very small and favorite work is Pastels. It’s about my sensual love of color; I feel it even when I simply look at pastels. I am in love with the medium. The feeling I get when I look at them is like wave after wave of vibrations pass around and through me—it’s like meshing into the rhythm of the universe.
Another favorite work is Denouement
for every reason I can think of: the light, the color, the intimacy and the
grandeur of love, its uniqueness, the benevolence… It is my response to the
question: what is the most glorious and greatest moment that a person can
experience? I did not want to show someone climbing
MN: Thanks for those adjectives! Between Denouement and Icarus Landing I spent many years on the Slipper, Waterfall, and God Releasing Stars into the Universe. They are terribly complex, transparent, and very ornate in terms color and light nuance. With them I was working out the implications of light’s transparent nature…After I had finished them I wanted to change and focused on accenting concrete forms, which Icarus, Venus, and Artemis embody.
[Note: Artemis and Venus were finished after this interview.]
Color
TFR: Color seems very important to your own work. Your own color palette is rich and exuberant, and it fills the canvas - you couldn't be accused of being minimalist! Do you have any comment on the metaphysical value judgments between, say, a rich 'Rembrandtesque' palette such as yours and a rather spare one like perhaps some of the achingly beautiful Japanese prints, or in David Knowles' gentle works?
MN: Color for me is a very complex subject.
On one level I equate color with emotional moods. On another it must serve the
light and forms in the painting. I love to conceptually flip color by using an
identical color to serve as shadow in one area and as a highlight in another. I
am into how light imbues a hue; say a glowing transparent orange, over
everything it touches and how shadow does the same with an opposite hue like
cobalt. I like to alter the hues of highlights as they touchdown through space.
In my art a simple red is never simple.
TFR:
Pastels seems to be a selection of some of your favorite colors? Your
more mature palette seems to have added a sunlit golden color to the palette
that wasn't there before - is that part of a change in yourself do you think, or
partly the influence of your many years in the richly toned sunlit Greek
landscape?
MN: Undoubtedly you are picking up on
something. When I look back on my work I can see similarities of color in
chronological groupings of paintings and pastels.
One of the reasons I left
TFR: Yes, the light quality of your latest
pieces seems to have changed (yes, I realize they are pastels). The contrast
appears to have been turned down. Is this perhaps, with your move from
MN: I do know that there many
non-visual factors that play a role in my color choices: mood, heat, wind,
humidity, or a model’s character.
Picasso once said that painting was a lie.
Reality is interpreted through the soul of an artist. Even for a realist there
is not the one way to color grass, a body, or a white wall.
TFR: Would you then expect to see a change in your color sensibility
now you're resident in the rather different climate of
MN: Give me a few more months/years and we
will see what
About blocking the sunlight out of my studio
I need a balanced and consistent neutral light to paint my studio paintings by.
Critical Judgment
TFR: How would you answer the claim that an
artist is not the right one to judge his own work objectively?
MN: Bullshit. Any artist worth their salt
knows what they are doing. Now, they may not be verbally articulate or
grammatically correct but if they are pushed for reasons they can come up with
the goods.
Many years ago, I believe in 1975, Maria
Callas gave a master class at Juilliard in
TFR: A lot of artists do work for hire in
order to pay the bills - portraits and the like. Do you indulge? How do you
think such work affects or informs a painters own work - the work that is truly
himself?
MN: My gut reaction about artists that render
artistic services is not positive. Commissioned portraits and such are not part
of an artist’s calling! You sell out your love. I sound very harsh on my fellow
artists but the most brilliant among them have let down the future of art by
reducing their art to “craft”. Postmodernists who follow their aims can,
rightfully, claim superiority over commission portrait painters: the
postmodernists make only what they want. For a revolution in the arts to happen
it is imperative that representational artists ruthlessly follow their unique
visions and not allow financial or social forces to pressure them to compromise.
TFR: Do you use everything you draw or paint?
What is your 'discard rate'? How much, if any, comes off your board that you'd
be too embarrassed to sell?
MN: When I was a student I hoped to make one
good drawing out of ten. Now it is about five to eight out of ten. Paintings are
different because you can edit them until your heart’s content. If in the end a
work is not “right” it hits the bin. Posted on one of my monthly Studio
Updates are pictures of me shredding a painting with a razor; I had
diligently worked on it for over 6 years. In this case the concept of the
composition was wrong—it was doomed and I just couldn’t see it until I had
exhausted every possibility.
TFR: Do you think people these days are
generally more visually aware, and perhaps more sophisticated in viewing visual
images than they might have been 100 years ago? And if so, how does that change
the way and the 'what' that a painter produces?
MN: I don’t know. But if I look to art
criticism I don’t enjoy contemporary critics half as much as reading some of the
older art history books or Michelangelo’s contemporary Vasari. The contrast for
me is about insight vs. vagueness. When I read Vasari it feels like I am there
in the artist’s studio actually seeing them work. When I read Robert Hughes I
don’t feel the truth coming through.
TFR: How would you characterize the
difference, if any, between an artist/painter and a graphic designer?
MN: I can’t stand computer graphics, the
games and cartoons look sickeningly artificial. Horrible. Just contrast them to
Disney’s ‘Snow White.’ Related to
this is an interesting phenomenon in non-animated movies, even though the
affects are startling it all seems crude because they can’t integrate color,
they have essentially become b/w films—it’s a strange case of going one step
forward and the five backwards.
The work that
In purely visual terms painting is king.
Within the history of painting are the greatest arrangements of our visual field
and the furthest insights into color and light theory. Professional
photographers are still using classic Rembrandt lighting; Rembrandt had visually
formulated the greatest way, so far, to light a face, which maximized it’s
structure.
TFR: Any advice for young artists, in a
thousand words or less?
MN: Oh yes, develop and protect your
self-esteem, listen to and please all your voices, confirm your observations and
conclusions with reality, live your ideals, and unleash your passion.
Peter Cresswell conducted this interview. August 2004
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